Friday, July 07, 2006

July 7 2006 "Aartvark" in Following Cerebus?

Group think, here...

As some of you know, Dave asked me to consider creating a "collecting original art" continuing feature for Following Cerebus, and he (and Ger) were open to helping as needed (like, being responsive to interview questions, etc).

I have not really seriously followed up with this, although doing this blog was a spin-off from one of the simpler ideas: tracking the original art market.

My original idea was to create 4-5 genres that could form the basis for articles, get about a year's worth in the can, and then launch the feature in Following Cerebus. The prospectus I sent to Dave, and then to the FC editors, also suggested that a blog would be useful to track suggestions and ideas from the Cerebite community rather than sitting off to the side and imagining what might be interesting. Despite the interesting digressions to the colorful debates that swing through the Yahoo site (yes, indeed, I lurk there), the ability for a shared public forum to generate interesting ideas and consensus is staggering.

Here is as far as I got with possible genres:

(1) "Reading between the lines" People would offer up pages that they own, and we could vote on them, as subjects for Dave and/or Dave'n'Ger to give us a reading of the back-story on the choices that went into that page. We've seen Dave do this for some of the auction pages (particularly the ones that come through The Beguiling) as well as those re-creations that they're doing for me (his reflections on the dialogue have been fascinating to me). The pages would be of our choice... and unlke the monologues that accompany the auction pages, the article could result from a dialogue that I would edit. Another feature would be to incorporate the Collector's POV: what was it that drew you to wanting to own this page, etc.

(2) "The Cerebus Roadshow" Named for the "Antiques Roadshow" ... collectors can present interesting unpublished goodies... could be an unusual sketch, could be some physical object... for D'n'G to comment on. The possible items could once again arise and get refined through presentation and voting (or... I could simply exercise editorial prerogative).

(3) "Technically speaking" I would like to know much more than I know about how they really go from ideas to the final version. I have the sense that what we know is the tip of the iceberg. One of the things I would love to do is take the opportunity to get to Kitchener on a regular basis and document work as they do it.

(4) "Tales from the Crypt" Another reason to get to Kitchener - dealing with the Archive and documenting what might be documentable.

I am not sure that all 4 of these have enough behind them to sustain years and years of articles *if* each of them appeared in every issue. My thought was that identifying 4 genres and rotating through them on an annual basis was more likely, although nothing would have to be *that* regimented.

Whaddya'll, whaddyacall, think?

7 comments:

j_ay said...

I threw this over in Word and printed it, I'm too fried to read it now. I'll reply on Monday. Have a good w/e.

Margaret said...

All four ideas sound interesting - for the "Reading behind the lines" it would be interesting if with the collector's POV the story of how one got the page would be interesting. Some are just "I won it on eBay" but some like how you obtained the last page to 299 & first page to 300 are a great tale in themselves (with pictures to boot!). It would also be interesting to hear Dave & Ger say what they almost did with the page, but why the ended up not doing that and going with what we see in the book.

"The Cerebus Roadshow" could also focus on fans who have gone beyond the "call of duty" like Jeff T who filmed and produced the DVD "Ye Bookes of Cerebus" on the Ye Bookes of Cerebus show, Fred Patton who worked on the Cerebus Newsletter / Fanclub for the first 6 issues, behind the scenes of Following Cerebus with Craig M, etc.

"Tales from the Crypt": documenting the ongoing process of getting the Archive ready for actual archiving while getting Dave and Ger's thoughts on pieces in it. Having the material in the Archive is one thing, getting the artists' thoughts on it is another - which should be done also. Certain items or parts of the collection can be singled out for Dave & Ger's recollections of it. Is that what you kinda had in mind for it?

Jeff Seiler said...

I agree with Margaret that the rotation is a good idea. I have one piece each for #2 and #3, respectively, that have an interesting (at least to me) backstory. I've already transcribed Dave's letter explaining how he arrived at the content of the pages he did for Cerebus Readers in Crisis #1 on the yahoo group, but some more people could read about it in FC. That would be the technical one. An interesting story is how I obtained the pen sketch of Prince Mick and the "matching" pen sketch of Prince Keef (for Billy Beach).
So, count me in. Good idea, Brian.

Jeff Seiler

Jeff Seiler said...

Oops. Make that, "I've already transcribed in The Making Of Cerebus Readers in Crisis #1, instead of at the yahoo group. That makes it a much more likely candidate for FC, as only about 35 copies of The Making Of have been sold or given away, so far.

Jeff

j_ay said...

(1) "Reading between the lines" People would offer up pages that they own,

And then after the owner gives a brief write up about their page there is a
-sinister laugh- inserted and then a bold fonted editorial by the Alchemist saying (sumthin’ like): “MMmmwhaaaaaahahhaha! The only reason you have that page is because *I* didn’t bid on it!”
(just teasing you)

While all this sounds nice I think very few collectors could do something like you do, I mean look at your blog, you have the unique ability to actually go on a trip and link thoughts, anecdotes and pictures to your personal art collection! Pretty amazing.
So while you’re offering the floor, so to speak, to others, this could clearly be 100% your baby.

(3) "Technically speaking" I would like to know much more than I know about how they really go from ideas to the final version.

I like this. I miss the old ‘notebook’ days from the bi-weekly.

I’m game for anything you’re up for. I’m a lowly holder of only 2 Cerebus pages (only to be rivaled by my 3 Sienkiewicz pages, so I’m hardly a “collector”) but I can help with anything you’d ask for.

Jeff T. said...

Sounds like great idea to me, and if other collectors actually participate you could have plenty of material for a looong time.

All the genres are good, but #4 seems like its own thing, project-wise.

Are you going to publish value information? What pieces went for, buying trends, etc?

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